ProLife Boot Camp with Trent Horn right now.

Hello and welcome again to Kathagansor's focus.

I'm Cy Kellett, your host, and in studio with me today,

our good friend Trent Horn, author of many things including

a book called Persuasive ProLife and we thought with Trent we'd take this opportunity

to do a little ProLife boot camp, get the basics about how to make and sustain pro life arguments

maybe even get into a little bit of what works practically and what practically

doesn't work hello Trent thanks for being with us.

Hello, sigh.

Wonderful to be here.

Okay, so the, I feel like there's,

we're, what, are we 50 years into this pro-life battle

or something here in the US and well

it depends how you date it most people will date the pro life movement from

Roe versus Wade in January of 1973 and really the-life movement was operating for several years before that because abortion laws were being

liberalized in places like Colorado, California, Hawaii, New York.

And so there were people who are committed

to the pro-life worldview who were working at that time

to try to change those laws at the state level

and pass laws in other places

to make it explicit that abortion should not be legal.

And so where we are...

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