#225 Will Rome Fall to Modernism? (Orthodox Response)
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🗓️ 18 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Shemus Poupery. I'm Joe Heschmire. And I want to respond to a specific criticism I've heard from some Orthodox against Catholicism, that Catholicism is guilty of changing and developing, unlike unchanging orthodoxy. And the argument goes, you know, the Catholic Church is out here, changing the Mass and changing her moral teachings to look more like current times, |
| 0:21.7 | unlike orthodoxy, which builds itself as staying constant and true throughout the ages. |
| 0:27.1 | Something wonderful about orthodoxy that I think sometimes we don't think about it because we're so |
| 0:33.9 | used to it. And that is the unchanging nature of our church. |
| 0:39.9 | Our divine liturgy is pretty much the same as it's been for 2,000 years. |
| 0:47.9 | The liturgy that we are celebrating today is based on the liturgy of St. James of Jerusalem, |
| 0:53.0 | which is a second century liturgy. There's written accounts of it. |
| 0:57.8 | The moral teachings of the church are the same. Now, I love the beautiful traditions in Eastern |
| 1:03.7 | Orthodoxy and in Eastern Catholicism, and there absolutely is a rich theological and liturgical |
| 1:10.2 | patrimony that we would be incomplete without. |
| 1:13.0 | But imagining that orthodoxy is simply unchanging, oversimplifies history in some important |
| 1:18.5 | ways. In fact, Catholicism has held the line of little O orthodoxy, while Eastern Orthodoxy |
| 1:24.3 | seems to have compromised with the world in some important ways. Now, speaking of |
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| 1:57.9 | So thank you to everybody who gives all of you sharing your hard-earned cash and your spare change. Speaking of change, when people talk about unchanging |
| 2:06.1 | orthodoxy, I think it's worth asking first, what is it you mean hasn't changed? Because sometimes |
| 2:11.5 | people mean liturgically, and that is partially true. The core structure of the Eucharistic |
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