These guys were meeting in.

Different restaurants where the bad guys were trying to convince them to pay the money that they owed.

And they met at a restaurant called, and I love the name of this restaurant.

I need to use it in a book one day, Benny the Bums.

So they would meet at the restaurant.

And at one point, they take them into the bathroom.

Now I got them all wired up and I even got a transmitter on them. We're out in the parking lot listening to the

threats that are being made. Well, they take them into the bathroom and made them strip. We're doing a

strip search and they had a wand that indicated that there's, you know, the wand lit up like they said,

like a Christmas tree.

And so they knew something was going on. And so they ended the meeting. We had met with them

at least twice before and had gotten these consensual recordings of the threats. Hey, gang, welcome back to part two of this week's episode with Jerry Williams, retired FBI special agent, 26 years working for the federal government, kicking butt and taking names. Don't get to box and match with her because if you tick her off, she's going to whoop your ass. That's what's going to happen. So, Jerry, thank you so much for coming back. Oh, it was a pleasure. We had so much fun. Why wouldn't I want to continue? Exactly. And I'll tell you, I'm smiling and laughing more than normal here.

So that means it's a good interview for me.

So just to get back into it, she is out of the academy.

She goes to Sacramento, spends about 18 months there.

And then when you went to Philly, did you volunteer or did they force you to move

there? Oh, this is another good story. Okay. So for some reason, I mean, most of the time when you

transfer from, when you're getting a transfer, you're going to during that time period, you go to a

small and medium size office and you know you're going to have to now go to a large office. But you're usually in that small to medium-sized office

for at least two or three years. I mean, it makes sense, you know, as far as funding and

transfer money that people be there. But for some reason, everybody that came through the Academy in 1982, 83,

they only kept us in our first office for 18 months. Wow. So I get this notification that

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