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The Road to Now

#225 Inside American Militias w/ Heath Druzin

The Road to Now

Benjamin Sawyer

Society & Culture, History

4.8628 Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2022

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Heath Druzin's new podcast Extremely American examines the American militia movement through first-hand interviews with militia members and their opponents. In this episode, Heath joins Bob and Ben for a discussion about what he learned while spending time with individuals in the movement, how the militia movement has changed in the last few years, and the way that these groups draw on historical events to shape their worldview.

Heath Druzin is a journalist who covers the intersection of far-right movements and mainstream politics for Boise State Public Media and Postindustrial Media. He previously covered the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for Stars & Stripes. You can follow him on twitter at @HDruzin.

Extremely American (NPR/Postindustrial Media) is available anywhere you get The Road to Now. Click here to visit the podcast page on Postindustrial Media.

If you enjoy this episode, check our episode on American militias with Vanderbilt Sociologist Dr. Amy Cooter.

This episode was edited by Gary Fletcher.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Bob Crawford.

0:06.2

I'm Ben Sawyer.

0:07.5

And this is The Road to Now.

0:09.3

Yes, it is.

0:10.1

And the road today leads us, well, in terms of what we're going to cover across the country.

0:16.4

But in fact, right now, across the Atlantic, welcome to our guest, the host of Extremely American,

0:22.7

a new podcast that's out from post-industrial media and NPR.

0:27.4

Heath Ruse and welcome to the podcast.

0:29.3

Thank you very much.

0:30.2

Great to be here.

0:31.6

Yeah, Heath, it's, I think Ben kind of alluded to this.

0:35.5

February 24th is when we're recording this. We are, I guess,

0:39.9

in the early hours of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, kind of unrelated topics, but I think there is a

0:47.5

connection because I would say, we can argue on when periods begin and end, but the post-Cold War era is now over, if it hasn't been

1:00.6

over for the past five years, and we're seeing an authoritarian action happen on the other side

1:08.5

of the world.

1:09.0

And your series, extremely American, is chronicling the

1:14.1

militia movement in the United States. So we're going to put you on the spot for the first question

1:20.1

here. But can you draw a comparison to what is going on throughout the world with militias here and authoritarian

1:30.6

movements elsewhere?

1:32.7

You know, it's a messy line, I think.

1:36.2

It's certainly, there's certainly no straight line.

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