Welcome to We Can Do Heart Names. Today we have such a treat, someone I've been following

for a long time. To, as she sometimes says, help me cope with existing, which I love.

Morgan Harper Nichols. She is an artist, poet, musician, and best-selling author of Peace is a practice,

and all along you were blooming. Morgan has also performed as a vocalist on several Grammy-nominated

projects and written for various artists. She is passionate about art making as a way to connect

with others. In her latest book, you are only just beginning. My bedside is available now.

Morgan currently resides in Atlanta with her family. Welcome, Morgan.

Well, thank you. Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm so glad to be here. So honored. Thank you so

much. I'm so glad that you decided to come. I have, I don't know, I wouldn't even just say just

red. I don't think red is the right word. I have been experiencing your work for a very long time.

I appreciate very much that it doesn't feel like just reading to me. It feels like

you got it. That's exactly what I'm going for. That's, that's my whole thing. I just, it's like,

I get words. They're a big thing. We have them. We use them all day long, but I'm just like,

there's all these spaces beyond words. Where it's just like trying to figure out how to even

communicate what we're experiencing. I'm just like, I don't know, maybe it's a color of this time.

Maybe it's, it's a rugged mountain scape that explains it better. So for you to say that experience,

I'm like, that's exactly it. That's what I'm, I'm going for because yeah, that's, it's, I feel like

I actually struggle with words a lot. So it's through the art that I'm able to say like, oh,

maybe they're so room for me to feel and share what I'm feeling, even when I don't have the

perfect sentences. Yeah, because the words that we're all using are not the thing. The words are just

arrows. We're trying to, we're trying to point to something else. Yes. And so what I do think about

what you're doing is it feels like you're just doing this something else often. You're not even

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