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The Brendan O'Neill Show

225: Heather Mac Donald: When race trumps merit

The Brendan O'Neill Show

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News, Society & Culture, Government, Politics

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Heather Mac Donald returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show to talk about her upcoming book, When Race Trumps Merit: How the Pursuit of Equity Sacrifices Excellence, Destroys Beauty and Threatens Lives. Heather and Brendan discuss the myth of systemic racism, the problem with affirmative action and how the new ‘anti-racism’ is jeopardising genuine equality.

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0:00.0

Any institution today that has racial disparities in its demographics is per se racist, and

0:13.0

I can tell you, as long as racism is the only allowable explanation for the fact that Google

0:18.7

is not 13% black engineers or the physics department at Harvard University is not 13%

0:27.4

black.

0:28.4

It is all coming down.

0:29.8

It is a form of mass neuroses that is extraordinarily consequential because it is taking down every

0:37.9

single institution.

0:42.6

Hello, welcome back to the Brendan O'Neill Show with me, Brendan O'Neill, and my special

0:46.9

guest this week, Heather McDonald.

0:48.8

Heather, welcome to the show.

0:50.8

Brendan, it is so great to be with you again.

0:52.6

Thank you so much for having me on.

0:54.0

Yeah, I should say welcome back to the show.

0:56.2

You've had you on before.

0:57.6

It's great to have you back on because you've got this brilliant new book out.

1:02.2

It's a shocking book.

1:03.4

It's a shocking read, and it's also a brilliant read.

1:05.3

And I highly recommend it to listeners.

1:07.6

It's called When Race Trumps Merit, and the subheading, which will give people a real

1:11.9

flavor of what this is about, is how the pursuit of equity sacrifices excellence destroys beauty

1:18.3

and threatens lives.

1:20.4

So what you've written, Heather, is basically a book about the new racial hysteria that

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