And so I just kept thinking to myself, okay, how could I make this work, payments, you know,

or whatever the case may be. And then just something intuitively was just kind of like,

but your ancestors did it at home by themselves without anybody present. So if they could do it,

then you can do it to me. Modern free birth is a little bit,

you know, it is a little bit different. I mean, some of it is women truly just choosing

to give birth entirely alone. It was your first baby. You didn't have the ability to say to

yourself, I've done this once before and I know it went well.

Like you had to be able to say to yourself, what if I'm that woman who needs intervention?

I'm sure that thought went through your mind. So what was plan B?

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypnoborthing of Connecticut, childbirth advocate, and postpartum

support specialist.

And I'm Trescia Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

And this is the down-to-birth podcast.

Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture?

Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

I'm Nicolette Jones, and I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, and I'm a mama to a beautiful daughter of two years old, and I'm Nicolette Jones and I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, and I'm a mama to a beautiful daughter of two years old.

And I'm just here to tell my, like, first time free birthing at home water birth story that was virtually pain free.

Which was amazing as a first time mom, especially a mom of color, you know, here in the

South. That's great, Nicolette. So how did you come to the decision to free birth? When was the

first time you had that idea? And was it because you were driven away from birthing somewhere else?

Or was it because you actually longed to give birth on your own? And I assume

with your partner as well. At the time, he was my partner. And yes, he was present during the time of

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