It's time for episode 225 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay FM, recorded Wednesday, January 24th, 2018.

Clockwise, four people, that's a little longer than an episode of your favorite sitcom.

So we thank you for choosing to listen to us instead of laughing at television.

I am one of your hosts, Micah Sargent, and I am, of course,

joined across the interwebs by the one and only. There it goes again, Dan Morin. How you doing, Dan?

Good, good. The more you know, Micah, I really feel like I've learned a lot.

Yeah, I had that weird fact on the last one about half-lives and things.

Very, very, very strange.

Well, I am so pleased to introduce our first guests, and I cannot believe it's just an absolute atrocity that you haven't been on the show before.

It is community manager at micro.blog, a lift driver, which I just love, founder at App Camp for Girls, and host of the

Sester cast. You can guess it's Gene McDonald. How you doing, Gene? Hi, Micah. That was a beautiful

introduction. Thank you so much. I am doing okay. I'm doing okay. I'm excited to be on this show, too,

and it's a great show. I don't know why you haven't had me on before.

I don't know. It's so wrong. I blame Dan.

Yeah, it's my fault. That's my fault. I'm totally the one to blame. Yeah. And to my left,

our second guest, the only other person we could find with Mac in their Twitter handle,

co-host of Mac Power Users right here on Relay FM, among many other pursuits. David Sparks is back.

Hi, David. How you doing? Hi, Dan. Thanks for having me back.

All right. We are delighted to have you here, as always. Delighted. Well, I am delighted to get things

going. You know how the show works. We got four tech topics. We got four people, and we've got 30 minutes.

So I will kick things off. DJI, that drone company,

they just had an event and they have some new drones and stabilization technology. I'm just curious,

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