Welcome back to what have you. I'm Rachel Jankvick. I'm Becker Merkel. We are out running errands in the dry lands in the hotlands.

It is hot.

It is too hot to not have the AC on,

so you're going to have to cope with that background.

Yeah, it's just a nice crunchy vista that we're looking at on with kind of the haze of wildfires.

So it's all very washed out.

It's like 103 today and dusty and smoky out.

It's got that August feel. It does. So Bega, there is something. I realize that I kept thinking I should bring this up on the podcast if we ever do that again.

And I was like so now...

Yeah, but this just comes up to me because okay I have told you before I'm sure I mean not just you but our

audience before we've talked about the funniness of people being sure that we're being abused and afflicted in the past slash were

the abusers the afflictors and the oppressors like we do of each. We're like it's a part-time gig

each direction and the thing is so just interesting to me is it. I kept thinking

about this and I was like you know what? Part of the problem here is that anything, so specifically because on this very

podcast I told the story that I was not actually lifting up as an example of

submission at all it was just a story about having to eat take a bite of a one cake and I didn't ever mean it as here's a time

where my husband demanded obedience of me and I and I just had to suffer while he forced wedding cake down my gullet.

You know that I didn't ever mean it that way and I assume that people know that because it seems manifest.

Well and I will say on that same day I threw down with Rachel because she was going to go down the aisle.

She was feeling sick and she said I'm not going to carry my flowers and I said

Rachel you will.

No I think I was like I I don't like them, you hold them.

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