2246 SPECIAL PODCAST: The Matter with Things
Brant & Sherri Oddcast
Brant Hansen
5 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 11 August 2025
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Topics:
In this bonus episode, Brant talks about what he's learning from the book: "The Matter With Things" by Iain McGilchrist. Including:
- Exploring the complexity and intelligence of living cells.
- Challenging purely mechanical views of biology.
- Why relationships and context are paramount.
And most importantly…
The many spiritual parallels that can be derived from the book and how who we are becoming matters way more than our past.
Quotes:
“Life requires cognition at all levels. Our cells think!”
“Genes do nothing on their own; life is far more than DNA.”
“Flatworms can regrow their brains and still remember.”
“Healing is God’s work; medicine cooperates with it.”
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Brant and Sherry Oddcast, sponsored by America's Christian Credit Union. |
| 0:06.0 | To order Brand's latest book, Life is Hard, God is Good, Let's Dance, or to find out more about the show, go to brantanthanson.com. |
| 0:19.0 | Hello and welcome to a bonus podcast. |
| 0:21.6 | Join me, Brand Hanson, as I sit here at this piano. |
| 0:26.6 | Hope you like it. |
| 0:27.6 | I can snuggle in here, sit on the bench next to me as I'm playing if you want. |
| 0:33.6 | Actually, what we're gonna do is, and this is a bonus thing, and I know some people are going to find this unbelievably boring, and I'm telling you to totally opt out now. This is a warning. Tap out as soon as I tell you what we're talking about, and you're like, I don't want to hear about it. That's totally cool. I respect it. I love you. It's not you. It's me. All that sort of stuff. But you should totally opt out |
| 0:56.2 | instead of going after you listen to the whole thing and they go, that's, that was boring. |
| 1:00.6 | Hey man. You're not getting charged anything. Okay. So it's all good. Anyway, I want to talk about |
| 1:05.6 | a book that we have referenced before on the podcast because I find this so interesting. |
| 1:12.2 | So I was talking to my wife Carolyn about this. |
| 1:16.8 | I was just going through this last chapter that I had read in the book called |
| 1:20.5 | The Matter with Things by Ian McGilchrist. |
| 1:23.7 | And I was just like, what about this? |
| 1:25.1 | What about that? |
| 1:25.6 | Did you see that? |
| 1:26.1 | And she thought it was really interesting. |
| 1:27.2 | I thought, you know what? |
| 1:28.8 | I'm here by myself right now. |
| 1:31.6 | And I could totally record this for you if you're interested in it too. |
| 1:35.4 | I think it's highly instructive about how much we don't know, but we think we do, about the most basic questions in life. |
| 1:48.1 | And we think we're kind of operating under this idea that science has figured this sort of thing out. |
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