Summary In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Billie Hoard discuss recent cases of violence against trans people and the hostile environment they face. They highlight the controversial mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral and the case of Next Benedict, a non-binary teenager who died after being bullied. They also explore the role of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust in perpetuating discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. The conversation emphasizes the power of disgust in fueling fascism and the social spread of disgust. This conversation explores the concept of disgust and its impact on society, particularly in relation to the LGBTQ+ community. It highlights the contrast between Jesus' acceptance and the Christian disgust towards queer individuals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the gospel as good news and the need to transform disgust into love and acceptance. It also discusses the power of love and intimacy in decreasing disgust reactions. The conversation delves into the dangers of accounts like Libs of TikTok and the real-world consequences they can have, as demonstrated by Billie's personal experience. Billie shares her personal experience of facing false accusations and a targeted campaign to remove her from her teaching position. The conversation also discusses the misrepresentation of video footage and the dangerous consequences of stigmatizing safe spaces for LGBTQ+ students. The role of Haya, the creator of Libs of TikTok, in shaping educational policies is examined, highlighting the lack of expertise and integrity in her involvement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of standing against Christian nationalism and advocating for comprehensive sex education and queer rights. Takeaways The intersection of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust contributes to the marginalization of the LGBTQ+ community. Addressing the systemic issues that perpetuate violence and discrimination against trans people requires challenging and dismantling Christian nationalist ideologies. Disgust can be a harmful emotion when it is directed towards individuals or groups, particularly the LGBTQ+ community. The gospel should be driving Christians towards inclusion and acceptance, rather than disgust and rejection. Love and intimacy have the power to decrease disgust reactions and foster understanding and acceptance. The misrepresentation of video footage can be used to stigmatize and harm LGBTQ+ individuals and their safe spaces. It is crucial to stand against Christian nationalism and advocate for comprehensive sex education and the rights of queer individuals. Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!  We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices