Huh, have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

Not much to it, is there?

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

Mmm, that is good.

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

Go all crisp in with walkers.

Delicious.

Hi there, I'm Jason Gatz, and you're listening to Think Again, a Big Think podcast.

The other day on social media, a friend asked, what the heck is up with this Mr. Rogers revival?

Why does everyone suddenly love this guy so much?

Moments before, I had been listening to a new podcast about Dali Parton and her weird,

almost saint-like ability to bring people together across cultural divides. In a moment of deep

mistrust and cynicism, there's this hunger for people and things worth believing in. I've also

got Bodhisattvas on the brain lately.

In Mahayana Buddhism, Bodhisattvas are the embodiment of compassion,

absolute compassion for all living things, even those that really piss us off.

The world could be otherwise is a wonderful new book by my guest today,

poet, Zen priest, and translator Norman Fisher. It's a collection

of thoughts and practices for becoming bodhisattvas ourselves, warts and all. A bodhisattva commits

to the impossible for the benefit of everyone. Beings are numberless. I vow to save them all.

According to Norman and a couple thousand years of Buddhist tradition, we can do this too.

Bodhisattvas or saints, Dali and Fred Rogers possibly included, are needed at all times and places.

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