Even when we got to the point where we were like, man, this is pure hell, we don't want to do this anymore,

there was still actually no part of us that thought, and we want to leave Scientology.

My whole family was Scientologist, her whole want to leave Scientology.

My whole family was Scientologist,

her whole family was Scientologist.

All we wanted to do was leave the Sea Org.

If you don't agree to go through their procedures

for leaving the Sea Org,

you're going to be expelled.

Your family's going to disconnect from you.

So that's why getting pregnant is the easiest and fastest way out of the Corg.

This is part two of my two-part special with Erren Smith 11, the former Scientologist who grew up in Scientology.

If you have come over, presumably you have come over from having just listened to the growing up in

Scientology part with Errin Smith Levin and it makes sense that way.

It might be that you are somebody who likes to do things the other way

round and why shouldn't you we should celebrate that and maybe

you're getting into this leaving Scientology bit before even knowing how he grew up or

maybe you don't care about the growing up and you're just here for leaving I

would recommend you listen to both, but this bit does have a lot of

feels in it. We get into the, especially when we get into parts about Errin's family, his

twin brother and things like that. It is actually quite difficult and emotional at times and that's

what this is you know if you're in a cult if you're leaving a cult if your family has been

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