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LET IT OUT

224 | Kayleen Schaefer on Female Friendship, a Career as a Writer, Creativity and more

LET IT OUT

Katie Dalebout

Fashion & Beauty, Mental Health, Love, Arts, Self-help, Wellness, Katie Dalebout, Health & Fitness, Well Being, True Crime, Self-care, Society & Culture, Personal Growth, Health

4.9826 Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2018

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Rarely have I rationed a book—savoring every last chapter and not wanting it end. Usually I sprint to finish a book for the sense of completion but with today's guest Kayleen Schaefer's book Text Me When You Get Home I clung to every last line, not wanting it to end much like a good conversation with a best friend. After hearing Kayleen on NPR and another podcast, I was sold on the topic of her book and eager to read it. As I gushed to her in this episode, her book far exceeded all my expectations. The hybrid memoir explores female friendship through the lens of Kayleen's personal experience with everything from mean girls in middle school to going from a 'boy's girl' to meeting her best friend Ruthie and discovering the importance of female friendship in her life. The book explores how female friendship is portrayed in pop culture, how it's evolved throughout history, and the how little value our societal systems value it. I loved every ounce, from Kayleen's vulnerability telling her experience, to her thorough historical research, to her pop culture analysis. While I started this conversation by gushing over the book and flushing out many of my favorite concepts with the author, we eventually cover her robust career working in magazines, her move to NYC from Texas, her thoughts on creativity, her process of writing the book, her thoughts on friendship, and where she sees the future of female friendship evolving. Kayleen was as delightful to speak with, as she was to read.

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0:00.0

Hello,

0:01.0

Hello, welcome back to the podcast. You are listening to Let It Out with me. I'm your host, Katie Delbout. And on this week's podcast, I have journalist and author Kailene Schaefer.

0:38.7

I, you guys, can't get enough of her.

0:43.0

I read her book, her first book, text me when you get home recently.

0:48.5

And have you ever had one of those experiences where you're reading a book and you're sold after the intro and then you

0:55.7

keep reading and it just gets better and better and you really don't want it to end. That was my

1:01.7

experience with Kaleen's book. I was rationing it. I found myself weirdly saving it and not wanting

1:10.4

to finish it because I didn't want it to be over,

1:12.8

but I had to finish it because I was interviewing her and I wanted to basically geek out

1:17.9

over sections of the book that really resonated with me and ask her about the writing process.

1:25.6

And anyway, she's a fascinating person person so if you haven't read her book

1:29.3

maybe read it first there's it's kind of a memoir-esque situation so there's not a ton of spoilers in

1:36.9

this but just read the book anyway you can listen to this first and it will make you want to read it

1:41.2

you could read the book first and this will really just scratch your itch

1:45.7

to know even more about the process

1:48.0

and the behind the scenes of what went into the book.

1:51.0

I love this book so much.

1:53.1

I'm not really talking about it too much in this intro

1:56.5

because you're going to hear a lot about it,

1:58.3

but basically it's an ode to female friendship.

2:02.6

And I laughed, I cried, and I love this conversation almost as much as I love the book, maybe as much.

2:10.6

Kaeline's a journalist and obviously the author of Text Me When You Get Home,

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