It's not just statistics. These are real people, real families, real ripple effect that go on for many, many years.

You know that you're called to action. Every time you give the phone number, every time you give the website, someone may see the person.

We can offer the victims of these crimes a chance at justice and resolution by having our viewers call in the tips for these fugitives was just the end bonus.

There's no other show like it.

Hello and welcome to best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente U. Tired at the I've profiler former New York City prosecutor and executive producer of America's most wanted and with me today is.

Hi everybody. It's francey hax former state and federal prosecutor and senior producer on America's most wanted Jim. I am totally fan girling out because we are so incredibly lucky today.

I cannot believe the guest that this podcast has landed. She's a personal hero of mine and her name is.

Hi everybody. I'm Elizabeth Bargas. I'm the host of America's most wanted. I'm so thrilled to be with you guys today.

Yeah. Elizabeth, thank you. Wow Jim. I mean 2020 and every I mean every crime you've ever covered Elizabeth. I've just watched and admired you from afar.

This is sort of embarrassing. I guess I shouldn't say this sort of stuff. I am a bit of a stalker, but I've just followed your career and I've so admired you because.

You know from the time I was small, there were not a ton of women in media and you know watching you and watching your career, especially how you've covered crime, which was a passion of mine since I was about five has just been a revelation.

And I just wanted to say thank you because I don't think you know what an impact you've had on women like me and I just wanted to say thank you.

That means a lot. That really means a lot to me. Thank you so much. That's awesome. Yeah.

So Elizabeth, why don't we just jump right in and talk about America's most wanted. How is it that you became interested in doing this show?

Well to be honest, when I heard they were bringing the show back, I was like what a fabulous idea. I watched the show and its original incarnation and was a fan of the show and his fancy just alluded to.

I've been reporting on true crime for many, many years as the host of 2020 for 15 years. We did a lot of true crime. We had the space to do it.

We were either doing one or two hours specials on it so you can really get deep into a story. And I love doing that. It's like it's like reading a great, you know, and mystery novel where you're going to crime scenes and interviewing witnesses and interviewing police detectives and interviewing the victims, which was always to hands down,

gut-runching and very, very difficult. So I've been doing that for a long time. And the fact that the show is coming back and we could do this in a way that we not only tell the stories, but we can offer the victims of these crimes a chance at justice and resolution by having our viewers call in the tips for these

fugitives was just the add bonus. There's no other show like it. There are millions of true crime shows out there. There are, you know, basic cable networks devoted to nothing except true crime right now.

But none of those shows are set up to offer viewers a chance to write the end of the story in essence to to bring the justice for these victims and the resolution.

Right. And also the interaction that we have directly with law enforcement, a lot of it mainly because of francey aches and the relationship she's built, but also my brother Tim and I.

Right. Our relationships with law enforcement. We're able to bring who we have in the studio when we're doing it, francey, marshals FBI.

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