And mentally exhausting too, especially like the first, you know, the first year or so, when everything's so new to you.

And you don't have the physical conditioning.

Exactly.

I don't think people understand how physically demanding the craft is.

People said to me that my body will get used to it, and I'm still waiting for that to happen.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building podcast, live from the Builder Show in Las Vegas.

What is this, the number six show, Jeff?

Yeah, this is the sixth show.

We've recorded live from the show floor. And I'm

joined by Rob Wadsack, Digital Brand Manager. Good morning. And Ellie Hart, Carpenter from Canada.

Good morning. Thanks for being here, both of you. Thanks for having me on.

So Ellie is one of our brand ambassadors and is a recent, would you not call it a graduate,

but you recently completed a, an

carpenter apprenticeship program? I did in Canada, yes. And how long did that take, Ellie? It's a four-year

program officially, which means seven weeks of training per year for four years, and then the rest of

the time is working experience. Building on the job. For a total of 6,480 hours.

How would you describe that experience?

It is nothing like what I imagined it would be.

When I first signed up for it,

I pictured myself one day sitting inside like a heated garage

with chisels and handplanes.

The reality is so much more different to what I had pictured. So what kind of stuff were you building if it wasn't like timber frame joinery?

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