#223 Does Luke 2 DISPROVE Mary’s Sinlessness? - Joe Heschmeyer
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🗓️ 11 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to Shameless Bopery. I'm Joe Heschmire, and I wanted to respond to an argument. |
| 0:03.8 | I sometimes see Protestants raise against the sinlessness of Mary. The argument is very simple. |
| 0:09.2 | If Mary was sinless, then why does Luke 2, 22 to 24, show her offering the required sin purification |
| 0:15.8 | sacrifice commanded in Leviticus 12 for women after childbirth. And sure enough, Luke too describes Mary |
| 0:21.9 | offering a sacrifice in the temple according to what is said in the law of the Lord. A pair of turtle |
| 0:26.7 | doves or two young pigeons. Now Luke is quoting Leviticus 12, which in most English translation says |
| 0:32.4 | it's about a sin offering to be made after a woman has born a son. So it looks like a slam-dunk case, right? Mary must have |
| 0:39.1 | sent. And you'll find even well-respected Protestant scholars making this argument. For example, |
| 0:44.6 | Norm Geisler and Ralph McKinsey arguing their book Roman Catholics and evangelicals that scripture |
| 0:49.2 | disproves Mary's sinlessness because, quote, she even presented an offering to the Jewish priest arising |
| 0:55.8 | out of her sinful condition, which was required by law. This would not have been necessary if she |
| 1:01.6 | were sinless, end quote. But if that's right, what sin did Mary commit that required a sin offering? |
| 1:08.5 | Leviticus 12 is about the offering women make after giving birth to a son. |
| 1:12.9 | But hopefully no Christian thinks that this proves it was a sin for Mary to give birth to Jesus. |
| 1:18.3 | So what is actually going on here? |
| 1:20.9 | As we're going to see, Leviticus 12 is talking about ritual purification after childbirth. |
| 1:25.3 | It's not talking about moral guilt. |
| 1:27.1 | And there's a fascinating |
| 1:28.0 | aspect to the passage that the early Christians realized, and many people today don't, that Mary was |
| 1:33.2 | explicitly exempted from needing to make this sacrifice, and yet she did so anyway. But if Mary didn't |
| 1:39.0 | need to make the sacrifice, then why did she? Well, speaking of sacrificial offerings you don't need to make. I want to thank |
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