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The New Evangelicals Podcast

222. The Rise and Fall of the Christian Music Industry // Leah Payne, PhD.

The New Evangelicals Podcast

Tim Whitaker

News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics, Christianity

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2024

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Summary In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Leah Payne, PhD. discuss her book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You, that outlines the origins and impact of contemporary Christian music (CCM). They explore the power of music in religious experiences and the potential for manipulation in revivalist moments as well as the complicated relationship with problematic artists and the ethical dilemma of singing their songs.  Takeaways Contemporary Christian music (CCM) has a diverse range of genres and subgenres, making it difficult to define and categorize. The use of music in political and nationalist movements can be both inspiring and concerning, as it can rally people around a cause. The Christian music market has become more complex, with different subgroups of   genres. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and New Year's Recap 06:25 The Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You 09:15 The Origins of Contemporary Christian Music 22:23 The Manipulative Potential of Revivalist Moments 25:21 The Use of Music in Political and Nationalist Movements 29:25 The Complicated Relationship with Problematic Artists 36:30 Navigating the Ethical Dilemma of Singing Problematic Songs 41:28 The Rise of Worship Bands 43:04 The Impact of the Internet on Christian Music 56:06 The Influence of Aesthetics on Evangelical Culture 59:39 The Decline of Christian Bookstores 01:02:28 Where to Find Leah Payne Read Leah Payne's Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music Check out our website for merch, educational materials, and how to join our community! If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here! Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. On this channel, you'll see videos from our founder Tim Whitaker and our incredible guests as they react and respond biblically to topics such as Christian Nationalism, church hurt, terrible Christian movies, bad conservative Christian takes, and MUCH more!  We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BAM, picture this! You're watching your favorite artist,

0:03.4

babe! Not that artist!

0:05.4

Ha ha, yeah, that's you!

0:08.0

You look down at the red can in your hand, or is it?

0:11.4

No, it's a Pepsi Max.

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The COLA over 70% of the UK prefer.

0:16.0

You props prefer it too. Go on, try it.

0:19.0

Pepsi Max. Lastly for more.

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UK Blind Taste Test with over 54,000 people versus UK's biggest selling full sugarcola.

0:27.6

For verification go to Pepsi.

0:29.1

Go to Pepsi.

0:29.2

UK slash FAQ. Hi friends I'm Tim Whitaker and welcome to the new Evangelicals podcast. The

0:45.4

New Evangelicals is an inclusive Jesus centered community that holds space for

0:49.5

people marginalized by the Evangelical Church, advocates for accountability in the church, and helps you explore the Christian tradition beyond the basement of evangelical fundamentalism.

0:58.7

This podcast is part of that work, so join us as we talk to people from all walks of life lending their expertise

1:04.7

and wisdom to us as we renegotiate our faith and find better pass forward. Hi friends how are we doing? Okay this was such a blast of a conversation to have

1:21.0

I brought on Leah Payne. She wrote the book God

1:24.3

gave you rock and roll. Guys buckle up I'm telling you right now this is a

1:28.5

journey down memory lane. We go through CCM Christian Christian contemporary music, and we talk about all the bands, all the bands,

1:36.4

and listen, as a professional musician who grew up in this world, it was so much fun to talk to someone

1:42.4

who is an expert who actually like focuses in on this

1:46.5

subject and wrote a book about it. We talked about so many bands. In fact, we're going to have music

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