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Acton, Acton. Welcome to We Have Lays of Making You Talk with me, Al Murray and James Holland.

I am in my den in London, the sunshine streaming in because my office faces south.

I'm picking out my bookshelf which is full of drums.

James Holland is set there in Unnies, totally on brand.

I'm just trying to paint a picture here. It's telling me I'm brand.

We have Ways merch hoodie. God bless you James.

I have a question. You're a walking advert, even though none can see it.

And James is of course in his den with his SMLE in the background and all sorts of books

and he's wrestling with maps and so on at the moment.

But we are joined by a special guest today.

James, would you care to do some introductions for us, thanks?

Yes, we've got Taylor downing on today and we're thrilled about this because

Taylor is written a book about the work of RF Mebbinum and the photo reconnaissance units.

Squadrons that play such a vital role.

You know, you and I, we've talked about it in the past that there is a danger because of the kind of sort of

beatification of Alan Turing that we and because the work of Bledchley Park was secret for so many years after the war.

Well, I'm the sort of impulsive, the impulsive, we invented a computer which is an awful lot.

Bledchley Park is boils down to a lot of people.

We invented a computer, us, you know, but there's obviously much more to intelligence than that.

Well, that is the point. It's just that the way it's depicted and where most people think

is that it's Bledchley Park and ultra and decrypts and boffins in their huts.

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