222: Part 2: Katarina Szulc – Follow the money – How cartels stay rich 💰

Game of Crimes

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🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

In this explosive episode, Murph continues his discussion with investigative journalist Katarina Szulc to uncover one of the most powerful tools in the fight against organized crime — following the money.

Katarina dives deep into how targeting financial pipelines has become a crucial strategy in dismantling the power of violent cartels, focusing on CJNG’s operations within the United States. She reveals how money laundering, shell companies, and cross-border financial networks allow criminal organizations to grow stronger, and why cutting off those resources is often more effective than arresting foot soldiers.

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0:00.0	So the way cartels are operating in Mexico right now is unprecedented.
0:05.0	We haven't seen something like this before, where they are literally controlling everything
0:10.2	and everyone, which is why the U.S. is sanctioning so many Mexican politicians.
0:14.8	And that's also a first.
0:16.4	Seeing so 50 go down at once from the municipal level to the federal level.
0:21.3	And that certainly is sending a message.
0:23.3	And in my opinion, when you have politicians who are on the payroll, it's worse than the
0:29.3	very criminals who are inflicting violence against communities.
0:34.2	The politicians are the ones who, like we talked about previously, are supposed to uphold integrity and implement policy that protects citizens, not allows them to be terrorized at every waking moment.
1:02.0	Hey, gang, we're back for part two, this week's episode, A Game of Crimes with Murph in the morning.
1:07.4	Still talking to Katarina Schulz, and I hope I'm saying your name right.
1:08.3	Yeah, great job.
1:09.1	Good.
1:09.6	Yeah.
1:10.2	Wow. It's amazing Good. Yeah. Wow.
1:13.2	It's amazing when I get things right.
1:15.2	But thank you so much for coming back.
1:28.6	I know we kind of left you hanging yesterday because of the stories about the group that's kidnapping these young women who are pregnant and then forcibly removing their babies from their stomachs and then murdering them.
1:30.0	So I wanted to ask Katrina, because I read some articles about this, is there a central
1:37.3	person that's arranging these?
1:39.2	How do the bad guys know which women to pick?
1:42.7	Okay.
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