Trigger warning. This podcast contains descriptions of various abusive situations. Listener discretion is advised.

You are listening to the Preacher Boys podcast, a podcast shedding light on decades of mental, physical, and sexual abuse within the independent fundamental Baptist movement.

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Now, here's your host, Eric Squarsinsky.

Jack Treber is no stranger to saying stupid things. This is clear. And this clip specifically

might just take the cake. It was found by bad sermons. Go ahead over there and check out

some of the other content there. He has been posting content, showing some of the bizarre

things that are set in pulpits in independent Baptist churches around the United States. And as you can

imagine, there's no shortage of content. But the clip I want to show you today really shows,

number one, how women are looked at within independent Baptist churches, but also specifically how victims are

viewed within independent Baptist churches. So I want to play this clip from Jack Treber.

Jack Treber, of course, is the pastor of North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California.

It's one of the larger independent Baptist churches. He's one of the higher-ups within that world,

if you will. Listen to this clip from one of his sermons.

Under the serpent, we may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden.

No, that is not true.

And this is an all too familiar tirade.

This is something you hear in so many evangelical churches that Eve is carrying

all the blame for the Genesis story. For the story of fall of man, it always blames Eve specifically

as the woman. And usually they'll extrapolate this to talk about women's gossip and women's

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