#222 - Ex-Cartel Kingpin on The Vatican, Morality & his Downfall | Luis Navia

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🗓️ 30 July 2024

⏱️ 146 minutes

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WATCH/LISTEN PREVIOUS EPISODE w/ LUIS: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7d0t6e83lLSt4VkeB6vpwk?si=AzXsKPIRSjC9z55bsycGzA (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Luis Navia is a former Cartel kingpin. For 25 years, Navia was the preeminent smuggling expert for the Mexican, Colombian, and European Cartels. He was taken down in one of the largest drug raids of all time, “Operation Journey” (2000). - BUY LUIS NAVIA’s BOOK, “Pure Narco”: https://www.amazon.com/Pure-Narco-Story-Inside-Cartels/dp/1538155516 EPISODE LINKS: - Julian Dorey PODCAST MERCH: https://juliandorey.myshopify.com/ - Support our Show on PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey - BUY Guest’s Books & Films IN MY AMAZON STORE: https://amzn.to/3RPu952 FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY: INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS: - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ***TIMESTAMPS*** 0:00 - The Cancun Crocodile Incident 12:10 - How US government identified Luis as kingpin; Luis indicted and goes on run 18:21 - Wife leaves Luis and he gets new girlfriend; Cartel freighters to Europe 29:33 - The mysterious Vatican connection 36:17 - Luis’s smuggling shipping routes across Europe; Sicily 42:02 - Luis buys smuggling ships in Milan 44:18 - Operation Journey - Luis’ downfall (FULL STORY) 58:33 - Luis extradited to US; Luis’ mother’s reaction; How Luis got infiltrated 1:04:41 - Luis on the “morality” of his actions; Legalization argument 1:11:26 - Does Luis wish he had done something else?; Luis’ relationship w/ God 1:20:32 - How did Luis win over his wife’s love?; Luis charm and “guts” 1:25:23 - F*ntanyl; Tommy G 1:29:24 - Luis’c contact w/ the cartel underworld today; Luis’ kids opinions on his past 1:33:58 - What happened after Luis was extradited to US; Hezbollah Used Car C*ke Racket 1:39:34 - Luis makes a deal w/ government; Life in Coleman Federal Prison 1:42:49 - Luis’ wife goes to Colombia to meet w/ cartels; Luis’ cartel assets fate 1:49:11 - Luis’ relationships with the Federal agents; Cartel stuff getting into wrong hands 1:54:24 - Did Luis ever turn down cartel business?; Who else went down in Op Journey 1:56:52 - The Cartel kingpins who never got caught and nobody knows; Could Luis exist today? 2:02:27 - Luis’ post-prison business; Undercover Cartel Stings 2:07:12 - Luis’ international precious metals speculation 2:09:04 - Mexican Cartels: Amado Carrillo Fuentes, El Mayo & El Chapo 2:13:23 - Mexican Cartels vs. Colombian Cartels; Cartel Power today 2:16:26 - What made Luis finally write a book about his story?; Luis story CONFIRMED 2:21:42 - What general public gets wrong about cartel golden era 2:24:05 - Happy Luis is alive CREDITS: - Host, Producer, and Editor: Julian Dorey - In-Studio Producer: Alessi Allaman - https://www.instagram.com/allaman.docyou/ ~ Get $150 Off The Eight Sleep Pod Pro Mattress / Mattress Cover (USING CODE: “JULIANDOREY”): https://eight-sleep.ioym.net/trendifier ~ Music via Artlist.io ~ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 222 - Luis Navia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	What's up, guys? If you're on Spotify right now, please follow the show so that you don't miss any future episodes and leave a five-star review. Thank you. Okay, well, speaking of crazy, what's this crocodiles thing?
0:21.9	You said you got threatened to be fed to crocodiles?
0:27.2	We were working Cancun, and when we were working Cancun, we would work with what we called
0:34.8	the Yankee.
0:36.2	El Yankee was the head of the federally police force for Cancun.
0:41.4	And the Mexican guy I worked with El Compadre, El Ocho, he was my contact.
0:48.0	He worked with the Yankee of Cancun.
0:53.0	So we had permission to work in Cancun. And that was fine. We did a bunch
0:57.6	of trips in Cancun, the Cozumel, air drops, a lot of air drops. And then we did some boat trips.
1:07.4	Afterwards, Metro came in and took over La Plaza.
1:11.6	Metro worked for Amado Carrillo.
1:13.6	And Metro saved Amado Carriyo's life when they did an attempt on his life at the restaurant in Mexico City, that Valley High restaurant, whatever,
1:23.6	you know, helped Amato escape through a bathroom window or something.
1:28.0	We'll come back to Amato.
1:29.2	I don't want to get you on a tangent explaining that, but we'll explain that later.
1:32.0	So, Metro, so my compadre, my Mexican contact tells me we're not working in Cancun anymore.
1:40.8	Metro's in control.
1:42.2	That's only going to lead the problems.
1:45.3	Sure enough, a Cuban friend of mine came to Cancun, was working with a guy from Guadalajara, and I told him, I suggest
1:51.3	you do not work here and continue working here. Sure enough, two weeks later, they found his head
1:56.6	somewhere in Punta Sam and his legs down in Chetumal.
2:01.0	They tortured the shit out of them and killed them.
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