What was the episode? Because it's been a while since you recorded our conversation. Do you remember

the episode name, the number? I think it was number 22. Oh, wow. I'm like, oh, gee. Honestly,

I remember that's five years ago. Well, you know what's rewarding, David, is how many people

I've either got an email from

or run into or when they've ordered a board, be like, yeah, listen to your interview and

serve splendor and made a lot of sense.

And, you know, we're not trying to generate sales overnight, but you don't buy a board

every day either.

And I just hope people start to investigate what they need to be writing and what makes

sense to them and what resonates with them. But, you know, when it comes time to write a board

or buy a board, you know, you might have been doing your homework for years. And so it grows slowly,

but, you know, a lot of people have referenced that particular conversation we had. And so,

once again, it's like a

conversation that we probably don't even remember what we talked about then didn't matter. People

are listening to it today and it's available. So that's exciting. And I'll put a link to it in today's

show notes too. Well, that'll be fun. So people could check that out if they want. And it's funny.

You're right. I don't necessarily remember words that were said,

but the implications of that conversation

definitely influenced all the other conversations that I've had

in the subsequent 200 episodes.

Yeah, I mean, asymmetry.

Yeah, the asymmetry thing started there you know and that's been like i said

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