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2202: The Playwright part 2

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Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In Part 2 of The Playwright, we shift focus to the show at the center of it all: The History of Now. Written and directed by Jason Bartlett, the play was billed as a bold, political drama. It was a plan meant to honor a woman he claimed to love. But former cast members and collaborators started noticing red flags. Was this play ever really meant to open? Or was it all just a front? Was The History of Now a sincere artistic project...or just another performance? Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva & Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth ShenoyTheme Music: by Thechicken.net Episode Credits: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Babel.

0:03.0

The history of now really is about life. It's about human behavior.

0:14.0

That's really what it is in its essence.

0:17.0

That's Jason Bartlett talking about his play The History of Now, with Andrea Endris on her YouTube show.

0:23.6

If you ask anyone what life is, the answer is going to be based on their perception and their experience.

0:29.6

And that's what we try to kind of encompass with the history of now.

0:33.6

The History of Now, how poetic, right?

0:36.6

Could it be about how present-day political events are shaping history in real time?

0:41.7

Or ordinary people caught in extraordinary times?

0:45.5

Showing how their choices ripple into the future?

0:49.0

Well, it's none of the above.

0:51.1

One poster I found online said, quote,

0:53.7

When four friends are lost in the silence of the

0:56.5

Holocaust, their stories echo a warning behind the familiar stranger we call the present, unquote.

1:03.9

Still don't get it? In the history of now, Jason Bartlett doesn't just blur the line between

1:09.4

past and present. He demolishes it.

1:12.2

What begins as a historical reflection on one woman's experience during the Holocaust

1:16.6

quickly evolves into something far more urgent, a mirror held up to modern America.

1:23.9

It follows a Holocaust survivor who, after decades of silence, is finally ready to tell her story.

1:30.1

And as she recalls her childhood in Berlin, her memories are intercut with scenes from present-day

1:35.5

America, where Roe v. Wade is overturned, the capital is being attacked, and the foundations

1:42.1

of democracy feel increasingly unstable.

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