People are paying top dollar to go hear Jordan Peterson preach a sermon on Genesis 12.

Aaron Wren making the case for a Christian response in a negative world at this year's issues etc. Making the case conference.

I mean we should be embarrassed that people are not turning to the church.

And so I'm not saying that we should necessarily,

you know, be saying or doing everything that they can.

People reject Christianity for many reasons,

but we are not, for whatever reason, talking about the world that people live in in a way

that they find compelling and understanding it and how to navigate it.

For a donation of $300 by October 1st, you can watch and listen to Aaron Wrens presentation

at the 2024 issues, etc. making the case conference.

It's available via on-demand video streaming and podcast.

Learn more at issues ETC.org. I would say from a Minnesota perspective this is a problem that we have two things in this

here's Minnesotans it's a beautiful day out if you told me that I would respond yeah but it's supposed to snow Sunday

Because that's just the nature of where we are also the Minnesota Lutheran thing is if you do a good deed and talk about it

It doesn't count. I think we as progressives you know you can't

Democrats are Lutherans the either well maybe that's a Democratic vice presidential

candidate Tim Wall speaking at the 2023 Center for American Progress

conference calls himself a Minnesota Lutheran.

What kind of Lutheran is he?

There's careful distinctions that need to be made,

especially in American Lutheranism.

Are they being made by the press as they explore

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