Oh, hello humans in podcast land. Welcome back. I guess today is Steven Pressfield. I

read The War of Art, one of Steven's best selling nonfiction works at the beginning of

this year and had a really profound impact on me. Then I followed it up with Turning

Pro, which did exactly the same and just totally blew my world apart, two books in a row.

I just needed to get him on, had to have a discussion with him. I absolutely adore

the concept of Turning Pro. Today, within the space of an hour, I think you get a pretty

strong overview of exactly why you need to leave the amateur life behind. Steven's such

a great guy. He's just filled with cool stories and a really interesting off-the-wall examples

of how Turning Pro has really changed people's lives. I hope that it has a strong of an impact

on you as it did on me. If you fancy checking out either of his books, they've got thousands

of reviews on Amazon and you can get through both of them in probably two hours. If you

read a normal speed, they're not very long. They're only 100 pages, a couple of hundred

pages. So yeah, if you end up Turning Pro by the end of this episode, then let's know.

Would love to find out if you resonate with any of the lines and the stories that Steven

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