And that's when it really hit me. I'm like, dude, what am I doing here? I always felt like I was in the wrong place.

I'm like, I need to do something about my freedom here. I need to be able to get passive income.

And that's to do something for me as a career and also be there for the family. Welcome to the real estate and financial independence podcast. I'm your host, Chad Carson. You can also call me coach,

and this is a show all about helping you get out of the financial grind so you can do more of what

matters. Whether you're a brand new listener or a long-time listener,

thank you for being back for another episode. The title of today's episode is Finding

Identity and Purpose with Real Estate Investing, an ambitious mom's journey. This is an interview

with Maria Fristram, and I had so much fun talking to Maria. We talked about her background, being born in

Finland, moving to Sweden, eventually immigrating to the United States and that whole process and

that journey, but also her journey into real estate investing that like all of us is very personal,

had a lot of personal motivations. For her, she was in a career in Silicon Valley, was even

making pitches and having interviews

with the Treasury Secretary at some point.

She has a funny story about that.

But really got into the personal side of as a mom, as a new baby, kind of struggling with

this back and forth of ambition and have this career. And I also want to be home with my kid

and actually found a nice, happy medium with real estate investing, where she's able to kind of

had that as an outlet. And she tells some funny stories about trying to apply for loans and

meeting with a banker while the baby is with her. And just so much, she has such a great

sense of humor and is so real, but also so many

great tips and strategies about creative financing, about making requests to banks for loans,

about the types of properties you buy with rental properties, but also just getting that first

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