What's going on, buddy? You just woke up at 3.40 a.m. Oh really? It's like 3.41. Where I am man. Yeah. What do you guys do or clock?

I just can't do for too many people. Can you believe he said that he's like four is just too common like waking up at 4.

And then he goes on to say it. And if your lights aren't on in your house by 5 a.m., he's judging you getting judged.

Yeah. Because even if I'm awake at 5, my lights are not on. I'm walking around and dark getting my stuff and trying to get out of the house.

Yeah. Definitely a phone light. You're like, where's my shoes?

But well this week guys we have Steve Cantor. You guys might follow him on Instagram. Cantor's own.

But he is the chief performance and safety officer at Sweener Builders. What does that mean?

We're going to talk about what that role means and how he stays so positive being such a motivational person.

And what he attributes all of his motivation to and even talks about some of his biggest influences as well as if he's the same when he's hanging out with his kids.

I was looking at his LinkedIn before the interview and it's nothing construction related but looking at his job titles and everything.

And I'm like trying to figure out what the heck he does. And then I'm pretty sure that he's the type of person that like gets hired for one thing.

And then once he's hired starts talking to people and they're just like, you know what? And then he just makes his own new roll up and that's what he does for the company.

So it's funny. You say that in this discussion and I honest when you were saying that I was picturing it differently.

I was picturing him showing up to the Sweener office and walking in and being like, hey, I'm here for the chief performance officer role.

And Jeff being like, we don't have that. He goes, you do now.

He's like, I know you don't. That's why I'm here.

But it's just it's it's such an interesting topic, but it really does address the the issues that we have with hiring.

And we talk a lot about what it takes to hire good people, what it takes to retain good people and actually build upon what we're trying to do with this industry.

What the modern craftsmen is trying to do with this industry, what Tyler, myself and all of us in this modern craftsmen community are trying to do with this industry.

And that is not only to create awareness around the trades, but make the trades a viable career for people.

And for people that truly want to be in this and build a life around this because far too often people get into these trades without a path.

And then they end up finding a path in another industry that might be more lucrative because there wasn't a good path for them to follow in you know within this industry.

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