Weird things happen in the backyard.

Let's hope now.

Wow. If this was your last chance, seriously, like if this was the last time ever that you could tell your story to the world, and there was a message from these beings that could potentially like alter what we understand about the UFO phenomenon

what would you say is the most important part of the whole experience every bit of it

you don't have to go into the river in all the details but you know what the beings

want humanity to know?

What, what's the most important part of this experience?

Wow, that's a big question.

Yeah, I know.

Yeah, um, my experience like yours, the whole family is evolving, right?

Yeah.

It's just growing.

And 15 years ago, I basically coined the term orb.

Yeah, I mean, well, they talked about it with ghost photos, but never with UFOs.

Right.

So I would say that's very accurate, that you are the sole reason that the UFO fandom in any regard uses orb in reference to a UFO.

That's accurate.

Yeah, 15 years ago, everybody was reporting triangles.

Yeah.

Spin in Frisbee's. Yeah, spin in frisbee's yeah that didn't

happen to us as you know it was balls of fire yeah light sometimes real big sometimes real small

yeah sometimes as small as a baseball yeah ground level to as big as a house, you know, up above.

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