219. Ice Down the Spine and Courage in the Heart
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
Persephonica
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🗓️ 2 November 2023
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Summary
This week, the team talk positive tipping points, grapple with the comms coming out of the pre-COP meets and send our tributes to dearly loved colleagues who have recently passed.
With pre COP 28 meetings currently taking place, the host team discuss the mixed messaging that is currently making headlines and anticipate what this might mean for how the future of fossil fuels will appear in the final text at COP 28.
Tim Lenton, the founding Director of the Global Systems Institute at the University of Exeter and Chair in Climate Change and Earth System Science is our guest this week, and with Tom unable to make the interview, our brilliant colleague from Global Optimism, Freya Newman, joins Christiana and Paul to interview her former professor. With negative tipping points racing along their own ‘S curve’, the team ask Tim Lenton whether there are signs that the positive tipping points can win this race and avert the worst impacts of the climate crisis (pssst, the answer is it looks very, very possible).
Music this week comes from Jemima Coulter with their beautiful song ‘[flowers]’.
NOTES AND RESOURCES
GUEST
Professor Tim Lenton, Founding Director of the Global Systems Institute at the University of Exeter and Chair in Climate Change and Earth System Science
Here is the website on Global Tipping points where you can find resources and info on all that Tim and the team discuss. Spread the word!
FREYA NEWMAN
PETE BETTS
We are all very saddened by the news of the death of Pete Betts, a former guest on Outrage + Optimism and an all round incredible human being. Please check out the episode here,
to hear the man himself and his lifetime dedication to working for a better, fairer sustainable future.
DAVID ATTENBOROUGH
As mentioned by Tom here is one of the first O+O episodes recorded and it is one worth revisiting to hear the exchange between Christiana and David as they talk about the Garden of Eden and Garden of Intention. Truly worth a revisit.
MUSICAL GUEST
Jemima Coulter
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Go buy/stream ‘Grace After A Party’
PLUM VILLAGE
‘An Invitation to Sit Together For Peace’
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrageant Optimism, I'm Tom Rificanek. |
| 0:15.3 | I'm Cristiana Fighedis and I am Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:18.4 | This week aside from reflecting on some sad events that have happened in the climate movement |
| 0:22.7 | and beyond we talk about the countdown to cop what to expect and what the key milestones |
| 0:26.6 | are over the coming weeks and we have music from Jemima Coulter. |
| 0:30.5 | Thanks for being here. |
| 0:46.3 | Okay friends so we're going to get into it this week there's a lot to cover as ever. |
| 0:49.9 | We're now in the lead up to the climate negotiations that are going to happen in Dubai at the end |
| 0:53.8 | of this month we're recording this on Wednesday the 1st of November but before we get into it |
| 0:58.2 | that there has been a lot happening in the world in general over the last few weeks. |
| 1:02.1 | There's been a couple of sad passings of critical people who have been so important to the |
| 1:07.6 | climate movement. |
| 1:08.6 | So let's go do that first. |
| 1:11.0 | Salim al-Huck, bang the deshi climate scientist, Professor Salim al-Huck passed away over |
| 1:15.9 | the weekend. |
| 1:16.9 | He was a staunch advocate for climate fundable nations over the last three decades and ever |
| 1:21.7 | present at the UN cops he played such a pivotal role as a mentor to many people and was |
| 1:28.0 | just so critical to getting the world to understand the importance of adaptation. |
| 1:32.0 | Cristiana you are the one that you both Salim al and also Pete Betts who will talk about |
| 1:36.0 | in just a moment the best. |
| 1:37.8 | What would you like to say about Salim al? |
| 1:40.3 | Well Salim I think needs to be recognised as having been one of the intellectual and |
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