I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure. I could touch but never hold.

Oh my God. Hi, everybody. This, oh, I have no idea how this podcast is going to turn out. It's Veronica.

Welcome to the Soberful podcast.

And I know I say, you know, every month I have special guests and I kind of use the same

description. I have very special guests. Well, today I have like, I don't know, I have an

extraordinary guest. So the reason my guest is extraordinary and you'll find out is so this podcast has been going for

almost five years and when I started it I needed some intro music and that's all very

complicated with all the reasons that you can't use other people's music anyway luckily

my best friend is a incredible musician and I was like,

oi, do you have a bit of music?

I can use my podcast, which is the music that you hear every time you listen to the podcast?

It's a piece called Jasmine and it's written by my oldest and dearest and bestest friend,

Sarah Gillespie.

Sarah, welcome.

Thanks for having me. So we've talked about doing this for some time

because it's really interesting. Well, let me tell you about Sarah. Sarah is a British American

singer-songwriter. She has toured internationally for over 12 years and received outstanding

reviews for all four of her albums, which are amazing.

And she in 2020 launched the Create Now Academy. And one of the things that Sarah does is she

coaches and works with other women to produce and bring their art into the world. And we're

going to talk about that because that's where we noticed a lot of similarities because what I do basically

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