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That was kind of a changing of the guard where Iowa at that point, like Zalesky finishing,

you know, I think there was one year during his tenure at Iowa.

Three NCAA titles in one year during his tenure where they did not win an NCAA team trophy.

And yet they pulled the plug and they moved on.

We can endure anything and adapt and pivot and change.

Wrestling gave us that ability.

I would say nothing in life has impacted me or the things Rapson has taught me in terms of self-reflection, resilience.

Stop this. Some guys have it, some guys don't.

Adversity, 100%, how to pick myself up and be a man after I failed.

And everything that has shaped my life and where I'm at today would not be there without the values

and basically the lessons I've learned to the sport of wrestling.

For me, wrestling is a normal life because it allowed me to focus and channel my energy.

We're fortunate if you wrestled because if you wrestled, natural talent helps.

But it's 5% of the ingredients.

It pales in comparison to heart and technique and effort.

It humbled me, taught me humility.

Nothing can humble you more than wrestling.

I think it's the learning to adapt, right?

You learn how to adapt.

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