219 | Amy B. Zegart: Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The Future of U.S. Intelligence After Ukraine
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🗓️ 22 March 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Marshall here. Welcome back to the Realignment. |
| 0:08.5 | Good morning everyone. Welcome back to the Realignment's daily coverage of the Ukraine crisis |
| 0:13.0 | through specific lenses of different issues. From the past we've done counterinsurgency, |
| 0:17.6 | we've done sanctions. Today we are going to focus on the intelligence community. |
| 0:22.5 | Those of you who tuned into soccer in my first and second discussion episodes that we're |
| 0:27.2 | going to be doing more of in the future will know we had this huge disagreement about the |
| 0:31.1 | intelligence community and what it means given their predictions around the invasion of Ukraine, |
| 0:36.7 | but also bad predictions and bad calls in terms of the fall of Kabul and then also September 11th |
| 0:42.8 | and the Iraq war obviously in terms of no weapons and mass destruction. So for this episode I decided |
| 0:48.4 | to bring on Professor Amy Ziggert from Stanford University. She has a new book out. It's called |
| 0:52.8 | Spies, Lies and Algorithms, The History and Feature of American Intelligence. This is a really |
| 0:58.1 | interesting book. We start with just the focus on Ukraine, what happened with the Biden administration's |
| 1:03.7 | decision to leak the classified intelligence as the Putin's plans, but then we take a step back |
| 1:09.5 | and look at intelligence agencies and discuss how they should or shouldn't be reformed in what |
| 1:14.7 | their history means for the future, especially during an age when we're transitioning away from |
| 1:18.8 | the war on terror and focused more on the great power competition with Russia and China. |
| 1:24.8 | Lots of great stuff. Hope you enjoy this episode. Quick things. Thank you to everyone who let me know |
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| 1:50.0 | Hope you enjoy the show. Thank you to Lincoln Network for supporting our work. Let's get to the episode. |
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