It's time for episode 219 of the Clockwise Podcast from Relay FM recorded Wednesday, December 13th, 2017.

Clockwise, Four People, Four that, like Mother's Heartbeat, will soothe the cries of a newborn puppy.

I'm your host, Micah Sargent, and I am joined across these beautiful United States, well, halfway at least, by Dan

Morin. How you doing, Dan? I'm doing okay. I don't know anything about puppies, so that went right

over my head. You put a clock, you put a clock inside of their kennel whenever they're little

puppies, and it sounds like mama's heartbeat, and they will be less lonely

and less likely to cry.

You're saying they keep watching the clock.

They keep watching the clock and hope that it's their mother.

Well, of course, you all know how this show works.

We have four, we have two guests, not four guests, that'd be quite a few, two guests,

four topics, and it's time to not four guests, that'd be quite a few, two guests, four topics.

And it's time to introduce those guests to my left is web editor at the Texas Standard and author of iOS Access for All, Shelly Brisbane.

How you doing, Shelly?

I'm great, Mike. I didn't know there would be puppies. I'm excited.

Everybody gets one at the end of the show.

Asterisk, asterisk, asterisk. Our lawyers have advised me. Not everybody gets a puppy.

Not valid in all states. To my left at first time we're here on clockwise. He's coming to us from

way down under, and I don't even want to know what time it is there. Senior lecturer in

educational technology, Dr. Michael Cowling. Hi, Michael. Hi there, Dan. How are you going? It is a crisp morning here in Australia.

I can only believe it. Well, we're delighted to have you here. Well, seeing as I am the host

to head things off this week, it's time to break into the show. We've got 30 minutes, and I would like to know,

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