219: 48 Hours!
Let's Go To Court!
Let's Go To Court!
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🗓️ 20 July 2022
⏱️ 154 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, we both covered cases from 48 Hours. Did we plan for this to be a themed episode? Yes. Yes we did. We are professionals.
Brandi starts us off, as she often does, with a story about a staircase. (No, not that staircase.) When Lana Clayton flagged down a passing motorcyclist, she said that her husband, Steve Clayton, had fallen down the stairs. She feared he was dead. When emergency crews arrived on the scene, they initially thought that Steve had died from a heart attack. But Lana’s behavior indicated otherwise.
Then Kristin tells us about Nikki Kuhnhausen. From a very early age, Nikki embraced her gender identity. As a pre-teen, Nikki boldly opted to be exactly who she was — a confident trans girl who aspired to become a makeup artist. But her dreams were cut short when she met a transphobic man named David Bogdanov.
And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases.
In this episode, Kristin pulled from:
An episode of 48 hours, titled “The Life and Death of Nikki Kuhnhausen”
The podcast, “Should be alive”
In this episode, Brandi pulled from:
“The Eye Drop Homicide” episode 48 Hours
“Everyone’s Favorite Uncle” episode American Monster
“S.C. nurse who fatally poisoned husband with eye drops: "I just wanted him to suffer”” by Peter Van Sant, CBS News
“Nurse Gets 25 Years For Fatally Poisoning Her Husband With Eye Drops” by Jill Sederstrom, Oxygen
“Officials said he died in a fall. Then his wife admitted to poisoning his water with eye drops” by Hannah Knowles, The Washington Post
"Woman sentenced to 25 years in prison for poisoning husband's drinking water with eye drops” by Ivan Pereira and Karma Allen, ABC News
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | One semester of law school. |
| 0:02.1 | One semester of criminal justice. |
| 0:04.4 | Two experts! |
| 0:06.4 | I'm Kristen Caruso. |
| 0:07.8 | I'm Brandi Egan. |
| 0:08.9 | Let's go to court! |
| 0:10.6 | On this episode, I'll be talking about trans panic. |
| 0:14.4 | And I'll be talking about yet another staircase. |
| 0:18.6 | Hmm. |
| 0:20.6 | You know what? |
| 0:21.6 | What? |
| 0:23.8 | I've been a bad girl and I've looked at... |
| 0:26.0 | I know that's a gross thing to say, |
| 0:27.4 | but I've looked ahead at our sources. |
| 0:28.9 | We both pulled from 48 hours. |
| 0:31.2 | Oh, it's a 48 hours theme. |
| 0:33.6 | I was a... |
| 0:34.0 | Please don't say I've been a bad girl like that ever again. |
| 0:36.7 | Ha ha ha ha. |
| 0:38.1 | Okay, I... |
| 0:39.3 | You know what? |
| 0:39.8 | I tried to stop myself. |
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