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I'm honored to be talking with Gee Edward Griffin, who's been red-pilling people since the at least the 1960s. He's the founder of realityzone.com, Red Pill Expo, Red Pill University.

He's the author of books like World Without Cancer and The Creature from Jekyll Island. Gee Edward Griffin. Welcome to the show. Appreciate your time.

Well, thank you, Patrick. It's a pleasure to be here.

I'm getting through the creature from Jekyll Island, a reference to the literal Jekyll Island off the coast of Georgia.

And you write like a mystery novel writer, normally banking economics like I'm already asleep, but you turn it into a page turner.

Let me start with how you get into all this. Did you raise in a financially savvy family where you always interested in the big picture of what's happening in the culture? How did you fall into this work?

No, contrary or no. I'm probably the least likely candidate. If you were to look through our high school yearbook or that my university yearbook and try to pick out somebody that would do this, I would be at the very bottom of the likely list.

I had no interest in these things. In fact, that's hard to say what I did have an interest in. I was just like most kids. You know, I wanted to have a good time with the least amount of effort and obligation.

And I was going through life like most people in our system. Unfortunately, I think I was pretty much on the materialistic side. I wanted to have a lot of money. I wanted to have a big house when I grew up and did all those things.

I wanted to have a trophy wife, the most beautiful girl in the world, having a big car travel around be all of these things. I don't know why, but I guess I was picking it up from my culture.

And so I really would be a very low candidate for that. When I went to school, I tried diligently not to spend too much time with the books only enough to get through in the exams.

And really what I did and I'll give you a little bit of my background to give me some relief from this is that for a weird series of circumstances that are not important.

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