#218 The Enneagram: Harmless Personality Test or New Age Tool? With Alexa Cramer
The Alisa Childers Podcast
Alisa Childers
4.9 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 1 October 2023
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Today’s episode deals with all things Enneagram. The Enneagram is viewed by many Christians to be a harmless personality test that can help us with our relationships with God and others. But is there more to it? In today’s episode, Alexa Cramer joins the podcast to discuss the origins of the Enneagram, it’s influence in the church, and it’s subtle promotion of the false self/true self identity categories that Enneagram coaches (even the Christian ones) promote. Some Christian coaches try and harmonize the Enneagram with the gospel, but Alexa demonstrates how they are often influenced by the heretical teachings of Richard Rohr. Even if you have already rejected the Enneagram, this episode is jam packed with important info you don’t want to miss!
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Elisa Childers Podcast, where we equip Christians to identify the core beliefs |
| 0:13.4 | of historic Christianity, discern its counterfeits, and proclaim the gospel with clarity, kindness, |
| 0:18.9 | and truth. |
| 0:19.9 | And we have such a great episode for you today. |
| 0:21.9 | I just finished talking with Alexa Kramer about the Enneagram. |
| 0:24.9 | It's been a long time since we've done an episode on the Enneagram, and I just want |
| 0:28.7 | to encourage everyone who's watching or listening to go back into the archives and listen |
| 0:33.4 | to the episode that I did with Marcia Montenegro is really the first time I talked about the Enneagram |
| 0:38.2 | publicly. |
| 0:39.2 | And I've really learned a lot about it since, and Alexa has done a lot of research in this |
| 0:44.0 | topic, and there are so many highlights for me from this episode where she talks about |
| 0:49.1 | some of the ways that sin and the self is talked about in the Enneagram. |
| 0:55.0 | How do we answer some of the things people might say if they're really into the Enneagram |
| 0:58.6 | and they might say, well, it's really worked for me, it's improved my life. |
| 1:02.6 | I find it as a way to help diagnose my sin, it helps me become a better person. |
| 1:07.4 | So talking through all of those, and Alexa said something that I wrote down because it |
| 1:12.8 | was so profound, and this is just going to be a paraphrase because I was writing so quickly. |
| 1:18.2 | But she said something that really hit me. |
| 1:20.9 | She said, the enemy will always make sure that there's something that's working in one |
| 1:25.4 | area of your life so he can pour poison into another area. |
| 1:29.4 | So I would just really encourage you to keep an open mind as you listen to this episode, |
| 1:33.0 | especially if you're someone who uses the Enneagram, we're not against you, we're not going |
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