Welcome to Tech Policy Podcast. I'm Ashken Kazarian.

Next week, the House is scheduled to vote on the bill called Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking, which was reported out of the Judiciary Committee this Wednesday.

We're recording on Friday, and we're hoping you listen to us on Monday. This bill

is going to amend Section 230, the law that made Internet possible to talk about the implications

and what it means for both the victims of sex trafficking, the internet economy, and the small

startups. We have Eric Goldman, professor of law at

Santa Clara University School of Law, and the buff president of Tech Freedom, Baron Zoka.

Guys, thank you for joining me.

Thank you. Yeah, thank you.

Eric's really the expert on Section 230 and intermediary deputization.

So it's an honor to finally have them on

the podcast. Yes, absolutely. We're very excited. So, Baron, why don't you talk a little bit more about

what is this bill? There have been a few different versions of it. We've commented on each of them.

So bring us up to speed on it. Yeah, there are two bills. So there's Sesta in the

Senate, which amends existing law and would significantly change the immunity in Section 230.

And SESTA stop enabling sex traffickers act. Right. And then in the House, there's FOSTA,

which was developed by the Judiciary Committee, which takes a very different approach.

It creates a new federal crime.

And remember that Section 230's immunity just doesn't cover federal crimes at all.

So websites can be prosecuted under federal crimes criminal law.

So FOSTA would create a new federal criminal law regarding prostitution. We can talk about how that will work. And it leaves in place the immunity in Section 230. But we think it will actually make it easier while still doing that for not only for prosecutions to happen, but also for civil suits to be brought where they really should be

brought against bad actor websites. So those are the two bills. And in a nutshell, as you said,

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