Welcome back to the show, everybody. We have, uh, I say this every week. We have a very

special guest. We actually do this, Tom. We have a guest that I have, uh, been following

for, man, I'd say seven or eight years. He's been working. I mean, he got his medical

license when I was two years old. So in 1994, I believe, uh, as I heard on the interview

Paul check did on living 4D, um, which we'll link to the show notes was fantastic. I will

also link in the show notes to the interview he did with my brother, Aubrey Marcus. Uh,

not completely different conversations, but definitely different enough for you to want

to, if you want more, those are great places to check out. I first learned about Dr. Thomas

Cowan in a book, The Nursing Traditions Book of Baby and Child Care, which was authored

by him and, uh, Sally Fallon Morell, who is the head of the West and a price foundation.

And connecting dots I had first heard about the West and a, uh, West and a price himself

and the West and a price foundation through how to eat, move and be healthy by Paul check,

which is, in my opinion, the Bible of health and wellness. Uh, he's gone on to write a number

of different books. He co-authored another one, The Fourfold Path to Healing, working

with the laws of nutrition, therapeutics, movement, and meditation in the art of medicine

that was also with Sally Fallon. And, uh, another book that I have read, Vaccines, Auto

Immunity and the Changing Nature of Childhood Illnesses, uh, which was brilliant, also co-authored

by Sally Fallon Morell. This is a brilliant book. It's very small too. So, um, this was

a pertinent book to me well ahead of any of the nonsense that's occurred in the last

year and a half. And, uh, for really a lot of the reasons of living in California where

they were mandating vaccines and, um, getting rid of religious exemptions and making it

very hard to get a medical exemption. Um, we were already living in Texas. I believe

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