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The Joe Rogan Experience

#2174 - Annie Jacobsen

The Joe Rogan Experience

Joe Rogan

Comedy

4.6228.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 July 2024

⏱️ 171 minutes

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Annie Jacobsen is a Pulitzer Prize finalist, investigative journalist, and bestselling author. Her latest book, “Nuclear War: A Scenario,” is out now. www.anniejacobsen.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Joe Rogan

0:05.0

Logan Experience

0:06.0

Train by day Joe Rogan Podcast all day.

0:10.0

Good to see again.

0:15.0

Hi Joe, what's happening.

0:17.0

Thanks for having me back. A lot's happening.

0:20.0

My pleasure. I've heard a lot about your book. I haven't read it, but I've heard a lot about your book from a lot of people that you freaked out.

0:26.1

Okay, well hopefully you can read it and then you can decide if you're of the freaked out crowd or of the really freaked out crowd? Oh there's only two options?

0:36.0

I think so. It doesn't end well. That's the spoiler. Okay, hold the book up. It's called

0:41.1

Nuclear War. Yeah. What motivation? hold the book up it's called nuclear war yeah what

0:44.5

were a scenario mmm and a very plausible scenario from what I understand from all

0:51.3

the defense officials I interviewed I books on war weapons, U.S. national security secrets,

1:05.7

imagine how many people told me

1:08.9

they dedicated their lives to preventing nuclear World War 3. And so during the previous administration,

1:17.0

fire and fury rhetoric, I began to think what happens if deterrence fails, that idea of prevention.

1:25.0

What happens?

1:25.9

And I took that question to the people who advised the president, who work at Stratcom, who command the nuclear sub forces, and learned that it doesn't end well.

1:40.5

Not only does it not end well, 5 billion people are dead at the end of... well. you begin to realize when you where you quickly realize as you read the book that

1:54.4

you know there are your mic's on or something

1:57.6

something just made a weird noise

1:59.7

oh yeah it's Carl oh it's Carl. Oh, it's Carl. It's Carl. It's the animal humor in the difficult

2:08.7

subject. You know, there's literally hundreds of thousands of people in nuclear command and

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