217. Greening Shipping
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 19 October 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Ahoy! With Christiana at the helm this week we’re raising our anchor and charting a course into the fascinating and complex world of greening shipping.
The shipping industry can feel removed from our daily lives. With images of huge cargo ships criss-crossing the oceans, distant foreign ports and international regulatory bodies with unfamiliar acronyms like the IMO or the GMF, you might even ask yourself: why should I care?
We’ll hear how 90% of what we consume, wear and use in our homes comes to us via a ship. And how the predominant use of dirty fossil fuels means that the shipping industry currently contributes around 3% of the world’s global CO2 - that’s the same as the whole of Germany or Japan’s emissions.
But not any more! Christiana and her crew of shipping experts take you on a journey to explore how the shipping industry is at the forefront of an exciting transition to Net Zero, and will explain how greening the maritime sector could help us address the climate emergency.
Christiana has been a long and passionate advocate for reform in the shipping industry. With the help of guests such as AP Moller-Maersk’s Senior Vice President, Morten Christiansen; Alejandra Teran from Costa Rica’s Sailcargo; Eric Leveridge, Campaign Lead at Ship it Zero; Ambassador Albon Ishoda, Royal Marshall Islands Presidential Special Envoy for Maritime Decarbonisation, Dr Lucy Gilliam, Seas at Risk, Bo Cerup-Simonsen, CEO, MaerskMcKinney Moller Centre, Cleo Bierneza, Third Officer at Swire Shipping and many more, this deep dive episode will hope to leave no doubt in our listeners’ minds as to why shipping’s path to Net Zero is integral to our current and future life on the planet.
How these ships are fuelled now and in the future, why the recent International Maritime Organisation decision was history in the making, how the people working on these ships are treated to ensure a just transition as well as the role that we, the consumers, can play, are all questions that Christiana and her guests tackle during this special episode.
Do let us know what you think!
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Alejandra Terán, Chief Purpose Marketing Officer at Sailcargo
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Ambassador Albon Ishoda, Royal Marshall Islands Presidential Special Envoy for Maritime Decarbonisation
Bo Cerup-Simonsen, Chief Executive Officer of Mærsk Mc-Kinney Møller Center for Zero Carbon Shipping
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Christine Loh, Chief Development Strategist, Institute for the Environment at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Cleo Bierneza, Third Officer at Swire Shipping
Eric Leveridge, Campaign Lead at Ship It Zero
Ingrid Irigoyen, Associate Director, Ocean and Climate, Aspen Institute Energy and Environment Program & President and CEO, Zero Emission Maritime Buyers Alliance
Dr Lucy Gilliam, Senior Shipping Policy Officer at Seas at Risk
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outrage and optimism. I'm |
| 0:15.0 | Tom Riveikarnock. I'm Christina Figuerais and I am Paul Dickinson. |
| 0:18.0 | This week we do a deep dive on global shipping |
| 0:21.0 | and ask whether the shipping industry can be compatible with the net zero future. |
| 0:25.0 | Thanks for being here. Oh, So this is a different episode for us listeners. Paul and I are going to be stepping off in a minute and handing over to Christina who's going to lead you into this deep dive on shipping and the very first thing to say |
| 0:55.6 | Oh no please don't tell me we already have all of these |
| 0:59.7 | the first of the maritime shibb. Yeah. Oh no all these analogies. Oh no no no no I know it leads itself to a deluge |
| 1:06.7 | Adm. |
| 1:07.7 | Christina will lead the flotilla of insights and yes it doesn't stop now just well gone forever I'm gonna |
| 1:14.8 | channel the listener channel say then then channel yeah thank you |
| 1:19.3 | I'll need a little dingh, there may be some we'll need a littleing every time we do one please clear. |
| 1:26.0 | Every time there be a lot of dings. |
| 1:28.0 | Ding. |
| 1:29.0 | Now some listeners may be thinking to themselves, |
| 1:32.2 | you know what, maybe I'll sit this week out I'm not |
| 1:34.2 | sure that I'm that interested in shipping. Why should they not sit this one out? |
| 1:38.6 | Because I know Christiana I've known you for a long time and I know that you've |
| 1:41.6 | always had a passion for this issue and you know that it is |
| 1:44.2 | critical and it's fascinating so tell us why. Well and I also know that when I |
| 1:49.1 | suggested that we do this as both you and Paul rolled your eyes right? I mean I would deny |
| 1:57.0 | rolling eyes but there was a bit in me that was yes it can be hard to |
| 2:02.4 | generate the enthusiasm for something that feels like it's not that relevant to your life, but it is relevant. |
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