it comes back with the same.

Every way you look at it, with every branch of science and modality,

possible for humankind, you come up with that.

That's a fact.

And anyone who wants to still say there's something there, that's religion.

Oh boy, are you guys going to enjoy this one?

So over several years of COVID, the media made a decision.

No one would debate me.

They were too scared.

But finally, someone was silly enough to come on and debate me from the other side.

And here is the result.

Enjoy.

And today we're going to talk about the C word.

Now, not that one, but the other C word, which is equally as offensive as opposed to this day.

COVID-19. Well, I decided we have a bit of a debate today about it because I received an email from Dermott Dorgan.

And Dermot Dorgan is a risk analyst and also a former member of ISag.

And I said to Dermot, we'd invite him on the show because he wasn't too happy with some of the points that I ever made and believe they were incorrect.

So both of the gentlemen join me today, Dermott Dorgan and Iver Cummins.

Good afternoon, gentlemen, to both of you.

But okay, so Dermott, what in fact were the problems you had or what Iver said?

We talked about the fact that Iver made the point that he didn't believe the lockdowns are necessary. He believed that within a three-month period, we had the data, we needed

to understand exactly the mortality rate when it came to COVID-19 and we completely overreacted

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