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All right, I'm here with Andre Azamov. How's it going, Andre?

You're going really good, and I'm excited to be here.

Yeah, I think the last time we spoke, what we were just saying was like a year ago, a year and a half ago, and you were running sheet to sight, and I think you were at like $10,000 month in revenue. And then it's been a while. Yeah. And then I just saw you tweet on Twitter talking about, oh, I wish I'd come back on the podcast. I think Peter Levels was saying something about that. I was like, I should have Andre back on.

I meant to re-record with you and just didn't. And then he informed me that, like, you've sold your company. So your story's a cool one because I think at the very start of your story, like you didn't really know how to code. You weren't sure what you were going to build. you had very little money and you'd quit your job,

and you decided to sort of embark on this path to become a successful founder. And you're very

deliberate about it. I've read some of like your older posts and you're talking about like the lessons

that you learn from Peter Levels and from others who had gone, you know, sort of ahead of you

and how you sort of incorporated those into your journey. And I think the very first decision

that you made was that you weren't just going to start on like one project. You didn't have

one idea you wanted to work on. You're going to take a whole year and basically work on lots

of different projects. Yeah, because I didn't know what will work out, so I just throw spaghetti on a wall

and see what will stick.

And this was more stickable spaghetti.

I like that approach because I think no one really knows what's going to work out.

Like nobody has an idea and can be 100% confident that's going to work.

And the people who are 100% confident that's going to work are usually just like diluted in some way. And so like the throw spaghetti at a wall approach is awesome. Like when Peter Levels did it, he did, I think he called it 12 startups and 12 months. And he really did like 12 startups and 12 months. Every month, he forced himself to quit what he was working on and start something new. And by I think like two thirds of the way through seven or eight months in, he, like, he kind of knew that Nomad List was, like, the breakout success. And he started,

like, you know, working on that the most. And your journey, I think the thing that you built

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