The DEA agent had a few different meetings with them and tonight at 10 o'clock was a meeting

on top of the overpass and the meet did happen but it didn't go as planned.

We also were running down leads on the van and we were searching to see if we can find

actually locate the van.

Mobsters, gangs, they never talk, they never rat out anyone and sort of dismissive of

law enforcement coming to talk to them.

Hello and welcome to best case worst case.

This is Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, writer, producer for CVS's criminal minds

and FBI profiler. And with me today is...

Everybody, it's francey hakes, former state and federal prosecutor.

Jim, we have two people on the podcast with us today. One, of course, our crack producer,

Josh Murphy, say hi to everybody, Josh. Hello everybody. I could listen to you guys introduce

yourself just numerous times. I just love it so much. You sure, francey, that he's a crack producer

and not a meth producer? I think it's a little bit confusing. I think crack is a easier feeling.

Okay. Okay. We have a really special guest, a return guest, a fan favorite.

Someone who is in so much demand on best case worst case, Jim, that I feel like you and I could

retire and let him take over and people would be jumping for joy and he is. Let's talk about that.

James R. Fitz Fitzgerald, glad to be here guys. I'm going to ask you for a raise or a promotion or

something. You keep building me up this way. I know it's just sad that we pay you nothing, Fitz.

Can I at least get minimum wage, whatever that is now in this business? I think big goods is all.

Glad to be here though with everyone, including Josh. Well, and Jim, this is so exciting because

we have Fitz on to talk about a case that you both were involved in. It's another case of the gyms,

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