This is the Untold Italy travel podcast and you're listening to episode number 215.

Ciao at all and benvenuti to Untold Italy, the travel podcast where you go to the towns and villages, mountains and lakes, hills and coastlines of Bella Italia.

Each week your host, Katie Clark, takes you on a journey in search of magical landscapes, history, culture, wine, gelato, and of course, a whole lot of pasta.

If you're dreaming of Italy and planning future adventures there,

you've come to the right place.

Ciao everyone. Welcome back to Untold Italy, where it is time for another escape and virtual wander

through the landscapes and experiences you can only have in beautiful Italia. I've been thinking

recently about many of you, including our trip planning clients, who have asked how you can

explore regional Italy without a car.

Now, if you've been listening along to this podcast for a little bit,

you will know that this is where we think so much magic happens.

The great tourist destinations of Italy are popular for good reason,

but when you get away from the crowds and the must-see attractions,

you discover very different

highlights and they're ones that capture your heart. We also know that the Italian road system

and rules can be a little daunting and it does put people off driving and renting a car and

exploring those regional areas. So today I wanted to explore how you can experience

regional Italy using public transport and mainly trains, which are faster and efficient.

Our guest is Joe Mackay from Villa Bookings Agency Bookings for you. Based in the UK,

Joe has many years experience travelling and exploring Italy

and has some fantastic insights into the best places to go if you want to experience

regional Italy without renting a car.

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