#215 — A Conversation with David Miliband

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🗓️ 21 August 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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In this episode the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with David Miliband about his work with the International Rescue Committee. They discuss the crisis of internally displaced peoples and refugees, the problem with open borders, the vetting of refugees, the limits of nation-building and diplomacy, the realities of globalization, global risks, defending human rights, a “post-values and post-competence” America, the breakdown of trust in institutions, the prospects of a second Trump term, and other topics.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Making Sense podcast.
0:08.0	This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're hearing this, you are not currently
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0:42.8	no questions asked.
0:46.4	I am here with David Milliband. David, thanks for joining me.
0:50.1	Thank you, Sam. Thanks for having me.
0:51.9	So there's so much to talk about, and I'm really happy to have you on the podcast.
0:56.8	Let's just start with your background. How is it that you come to know many of the things
1:01.8	you will obviously know as we get rolling here? What have you been up to?
1:06.2	Well, you know that British people don't like talking about themselves, but here goes,
1:09.9	I'm proud to be the President and CEO of the International Rescue Committee. It's an
1:14.6	extraordinary American organization founded by Albert Einstein, a refugee in New York in
1:20.1	the 1930s. He founded the International Rescue Committee to rescue Jews from Europe.
1:24.9	Our first employee, a very un-fri, employed to Marseille in 1940, and helped issue 2000
1:32.3	passports, fake passports. That helped Jews predominantly, but also intellectuals, escape
1:38.8	from occupied France. People like Mark Chagall made it to the US because of the extraordinary
1:44.0	heroism and ingenuity of very un-fri. And today the organization is an international humanitarian
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