This is Jonathan Peugeot. That is the first kind of intelligence or consciousness.

That is the first kind of thing I wanted to discuss.

And the second thing I wanted to discuss is the nature of church

and how that relates to, I guess, our own spiritual journey.

I think those two things are the things that stand out for me personally,

listening to a lot of your YouTube material.

Those are the two, like, interesting ideas to me,

like the idea of a city as a something may be conscious,

and the idea that we can't kind of go it alone in this life

and the kind of individualistic, like like attempt to do that has a limit.

And so I guess the main thing with the city is you've said before that like a city is something

we can freight that we can that we can communicate with in a way that's analogous to a person. So I can ask my friend the question

and that friend can choose to respond to that question or not. But that's a kind of prayer there

or entreaty to my friend like, oh, what do you think of this or like that? And in a similar way,

I can do that in a city or something that's not as obviously a person as

my friend in the sense that they don't have a physical fleshy body a city doesn't necessarily

have that so I guess I'm trying to think of how to formulate the question.

I understand how it's difficult to think about it that way.

So the first thing maybe to the first thing to understand is that a city definitely has a body. It does have a fleshy physical body.

It's just that it's not as it's not it's not a body that we can perceive at a glance the way that we perceive a person at a glance, right? So you encounter a person,

there he is. Like he's contained in space, I can, you know, I can go around them, you know.

The city is also like that, but just bigger.

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