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The Symbolic World

213 - The Divine Comedy: Love in Heaven and in Hell

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Kintore College invited me to give a talk on love as the driving force of human existence as part of their Philosophy and Literature program. Since many found it useful I decided to repost it on my podcast, now also including the Q&A section at the end. In this talk I discuss love within the frame of Dante's Divine Comedy, C.S. Lewis' The Great Divorce and Plato's Symposium. Original video: https://youtu.be/91ka7aX5WY8 Kintore College website: http://www.kintorecollege.ca ================= The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store Language of Creation, by Matthieu Pageau: https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Jonathan Peugeot amazing text called the Comedia. This is what I'm going

0:29.5

to be talking about most, but he was, as you, if you've studied Dante a little bit, he was

0:33.7

part of a brotherhood of poets that were focused on the notion of love.

0:40.2

Now, love in the comedy can be seen as the animating force behind everything that Dante talks about.

0:47.8

And not only the animating force in the story, but really presented as something like the animated,

0:55.8

animating force of everything.

0:58.8

That is the manner in which the world exists.

1:04.4

And for us, as modern people, that is a very strange thing to think, to think that the world exists through love, let's say.

1:07.1

But hopefully, by the time I'm done speaking to you, to at least understand how we could think something like that

1:13.2

or how it is that people could think that way.

1:16.4

So Dante has this whole massive experience of going down into hell,

1:20.8

encountering all these people that are suffering for different sins,

1:24.2

and then all going up to purgatory,

1:27.3

encountering again people that are expiating some of their sins,

1:31.3

and then moving up into heaven, where there's this slow ascension

1:35.3

all the way up into God.

1:37.3

But when you read the text, you realize that,

1:41.3

for example, the people in hell, they rush into hell themselves. They want to be there.

1:48.2

And there's a sense in which the people that are at the different levels of reality that Dante

1:53.4

encounters, they want to be where they are. And the reason why they want to be where they are is

2:00.7

because of love that is it is

2:04.1

something like in the lower spheres let's say in hell and in purgatory it's

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