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The Talk Show With John Gruber

214: ‘Only Wireless. Less Smart Than an Echo. Lame.’ With Paul Kafasis

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 9 February 2018

⏱️ 130 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Paul Kafasis returns to the show. Topics include Apple’s new HomePod, [Farrago](https://rogueamoeba.com/farrago/) (Rogue Amoeba’s new soundboard app for the Mac), the Philadelphia Eagles’ triumph over the “New England” Patriots in Super Bowl 52, and we stir up a controversy regarding a 10-year-old cocktail devised by the boys at You Look Nice Today.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, yeah, I love it.

0:07.3

Off that beat.

0:09.0

Go ahead.

0:10.0

God, this is going to be a nightmare to add it.

0:14.2

Sorry, you gave him a good thing.

0:18.8

Neither of us are editing the show.

0:22.6

Paul Kufassis is back on the show.

0:25.0

A co-founder of Rokameba software.

0:27.4

Paul, you've been on the show many times.

0:28.6

I don't think you've been on in quite some time.

0:31.7

I think I was on some kind of a list.

0:33.5

I'm not sure what I did.

0:35.0

I didn't rip up a picture of the Pope or anything,

0:37.1

but I don't know what I did, but I'm back.

0:40.1

All right, let me see here.

0:40.9

I've got a list of former guests.

0:44.0

This is episode 214.

0:46.4

You were just on.

0:47.1

You were on episode 112.

0:50.9

Well, we should have waited 10 more episodes,

0:52.5

because it doubled the number.

0:54.1

Or we should have done it two episodes ago

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