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First ever podcast.

First ever, the first ever

the first ever podcast

I am your first ever podcast.

I am your host and if this is your

first time here, this is a show where I interview artists of all kinds about the first experiences

and their art form that led them to where they are today. This is episode 214. And my guest this week

is Aaron Bruno, the man behind Awall Nation.

He has a brand new album out right now called The Phantom 5 and is doing a headline tour in support of that this spring.

You can check the dates over at Awallnationmusic.com.

All right.

So let me give you a little background on this episode because I've told a few friends that I spoke to Aaron and they were like, whoa, what? Like that's interesting for the show. That doesn't seem like a normal guest that you would have on there. And I want to give you a little bit of inside baseball. So I mean, at the core of it, it's a basic story where his publicist kindly reached out, asked if I'd be interested in talking to Aaron, and I said yes, because we actually have a very interesting through line, which I was really excited to talk to him about. So let me take you back. Back in 1998, I went to go see the band Far. It was a very impactful show for me. It was at the Roxy.

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